tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post5231693729174243731..comments2024-03-29T12:16:15.785+00:00Comments on mainly macro: Five small thoughts on the Autumn StatementMainly Macrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09984575852247982901noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-22706103557338688172015-11-30T18:32:19.166+00:002015-11-30T18:32:19.166+00:00Remember they all add to zero. If the non-governm...Remember they all add to zero. If the non-government sector stops spending, the government sector has up its spending to stop the economy contracting and unemployment increasing. Otherwise, we just have to stop importing stuff that we can't re-export with some value added.acornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16096980683528426092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-39730474774217778502015-11-30T11:39:12.646+00:002015-11-30T11:39:12.646+00:00Looking at the 2 charts the sum of the household a...Looking at the 2 charts the sum of the household and corporate sectors seems very similar, the big change is the balance between them.<br />Almar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-30676801023797162892015-11-29T11:08:40.303+00:002015-11-29T11:08:40.303+00:00Any thoughts about how the OBR have changed dramat...Any thoughts about how the OBR have changed dramatically their projections for the household deficit since their last estimate four months ago? Here are the figures from 'Economic and Fiscal Outlook - July 2015':<br /><br />http://i.imgsafe.org/3a79100.png<br /><br />And here are those released to coincide with the autumn statement:<br /><br />http://i.imgsafe.org/4791174.png<br /><br />If Osborne is not prepared to do the borrowing then someone else is going to have to do it for him. Or am I not reading this correctly?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12615408159449769553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-73366038733456518312015-11-29T01:13:44.600+00:002015-11-29T01:13:44.600+00:00The chief executive of the Electoral Reform Societ...The chief executive of the Electoral Reform Society's personal political ambitions would have been relevant only if Wren Lewis's argument had depended on her being a reliable authority. I think it's fair to say that it did not and that she was cited only as someone who had happened to voice a view similar to his.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115423820938009661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-71671229597655112222015-11-28T19:02:26.521+00:002015-11-28T19:02:26.521+00:00"This shows how economic growth is the key to..."This shows how economic growth is the key to everything."<br /><br />I'm shocked that this hasn't been picked up by the politicos and the media. Because it precisely makes Labour's point - that we should be aiming for growth rather than obsess about austerity. But then, really, we shouldn't be shocked by the continual failures of the bubble.<br />gastro georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-31690707760596435652015-11-28T15:02:22.063+00:002015-11-28T15:02:22.063+00:00Best ignore the bit that preceded those final few ...Best ignore the bit that preceded those final few words then:<br />"would have more creidibility if she hadn't tried to get adopted as a Labour candidate in the election. As it is, the story is: "Labour Party member is upset about cuts to public funding of Labour Party..."<br />Clearly a non-party political approach by yourself to her voicing concerns regarding democracy. I apologise!<br /> Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453060744510427275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-44907342462947297902015-11-28T11:09:30.944+00:002015-11-28T11:09:30.944+00:00AFZ, the bottom line is that it is always the spen...AFZ, the bottom line is that it is always the spending and saving preferences of the non-government sector, that decides what the budget deficit will be. The economy is driven by aggregate demand; there is no Say' law that says supply creates its own demand. There is no Ricardian Equivalence; in a pay-as-you-earn tax model, nobody saves up to pay a future tax bill.<br /><br />There are now so many cracks in New Keynesian models (Phillips Curve; Taylor Rule; NAIRU etc), that numerous NK author's ad-hoc applications of Polyfilla, are struggling to hold it together. I say let it die, the future is Post Keynesian and MMT. ;-) ;-) ;-) Merry Christmas.acornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16096980683528426092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-15627210417107325982015-11-28T03:10:03.332+00:002015-11-28T03:10:03.332+00:00My own instincts are with SWL, but an interesting ...My own instincts are with SWL, but an interesting perspective Tom. Although I am probably in 'the bubble' as you describe, I do get to talk to a range of people and their view of the opposition seems to be that they cannot be trusted to keep the country or safe and 'balance the books' (which for them means to responsibly manage the economy). And this is why many voted Tory. Recently I met both an IT worker on 40 000 pa in Reading and a taxi driver in Ashford Kent who said that Labour just irresponsibly throw money around. They all voted Tory last time. Another was a single mum in London who did not like being on benefit, but said that she earned more on benefit than she does from working - and is really struggling. She voted Tory for the first time in the last election. Very high rates of economic immigration are also a common concern (another failure of the Tories, yet nobody trusts Labour when it comes to the borders either.)<br /><br />Although nobody wants a return to New Labour spin, they have to present themselves as a more professional operation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-88808895022704887892015-11-27T19:51:22.733+00:002015-11-27T19:51:22.733+00:00I think that is exactly what McDonnell wanted and ...I think that is exactly what McDonnell wanted and expected (and it is in all the circumstances at least not obviously the worst strategy) - he got the Sun, in the first two paragraphs, to report him:<br /><br />"accusing chancellor George Osborne of "sheer economic illiteracy"<br /><br />"claiming public assets were being sold to the Chinese government"<br /><br />and<br /><br />"accus[ing] the Chancellor of selling off not just the family silver to the Chinese but the “furniture, the fixtures and the fittings.”<br /><br />The next election is a long way off and could not be won by the existing 'strategy' of adopting the Conservatives' own agenda and claiming to be a bit less enthusiastic about it. Two things were clearly needed (as all cross-sections of the Labour electorate understood) - to break decisively with the previous New Labour regime, and to directly oppose the Conservative agenda, with the concomitant Overton-shift which we are already seeing (and the potential for a subsequent cosmetic 'door-in-the-face' manoeuvre).<br /><br />So imagine for a moment that it makes sense (which I suspect it does) to shelve any short-run concern for McDonnell's personal image (which already has a major shortcoming). All that remains is getting some proportion of otherwise hard-to-reach readers to take in on some level the message of the three quotes given above. It has no doubt achieved that objective. <br /><br />But in any case, I repeat, mention of Mao just doesn't have the resonance your average journo or politician might imagine it to have. As the Sun's need to embark on a long-winded history lesson at the end might suggest. <br /><br />Election tactics are not the issue at this point. An imperfect but sugesstive coparison is with UKIP's various bizarre statements and 'gaffes'. Tha approach is to cut through the media's preference for a poll-watching Keynesian electability contest and concentrate on the prerequisite for electoral success, pushing through the message. <br /><br />Ordinary people are a lot more accommodating of this kind of thing, when they choose to be, than the VSP commentariat, and a lot more savvy about the use of publicity stunts (and of already overloaded media smear tactics) than they are often given credit for. For example, I very much doubt that the shrieks of outrage from orthodox 'centrists' at Corbyn's supposedly 'cosying up' to Hamas and Hizbollah are echoed among the electorate at large.Tim Wilkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15237522140184882034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-54052278663158666442015-11-27T18:48:56.655+00:002015-11-27T18:48:56.655+00:00@Simon: "whatever the rights and wrongs of he...@Simon: "whatever the rights and wrongs of her case"blenheimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-42039343276585803112015-11-27T17:24:20.780+00:002015-11-27T17:24:20.780+00:00Two thoughts about the OBR change in forecast rece...Two thoughts about the OBR change in forecast receipts and thus the freedom granted to the chancellor to cut less and still meet his stated aims:<br /><br />1. This shows how economic growth is the key to everything. As some have been saying for a while... look after the economy and the deficit takes care of itself.<br />2. As S W-L has hinted the predictions are often wrong. In the case of Osborne's chancellorship, they seem to be always wrong. So I don't really believe a word of it.<br />http://alienfromzog.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/osbornomics.html<br /><br />AFZ alienfromzoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11204842446369918262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-16644850726727784892015-11-27T16:18:20.055+00:002015-11-27T16:18:20.055+00:00@ Blenheim. Referring to your original comment, ...@ Blenheim. Referring to your original comment, where in it might a reader get the impression that you are "pointing out that others may do so" (treat the issue in a party political way), and that it is not your own view also?Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01453060744510427275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-63953672773441221752015-11-27T14:11:55.343+00:002015-11-27T14:11:55.343+00:00I am not treating anything in a party political wa...I am not treating anything in a party political way, I am pointing out that others may do so. Though I am flattered that you think that my views reflect the current political zeitgeist. <br /><br /><br /><br />blenheimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-83932763334918579582015-11-27T14:06:33.592+00:002015-11-27T14:06:33.592+00:00Employee NI contributions are increasing next Apri...Employee NI contributions are increasing next April<br />See Paul Lewis blog of Mon 15th Nov. for details.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-41308076420739123692015-11-27T13:09:50.556+00:002015-11-27T13:09:50.556+00:00Tim you really are fooling yourself. Read this, fo...Tim you really are fooling yourself. Read this, for example.<br /><br />http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6764461/Shadow-chancellor-McDonnell-quotes-Mao-in-bizarre-Autumn-Statement-response.html<br /><br />Do you honestly think that any reader will come away thinking about the Chinese financing UK nuclear power stations.<br /><br />If I was a Corbyn supporter, I should be very worried that this was ever allowed to happen. When you are playing a football match where your side has two players and the other side 20, its not clever to score own goals. Mainly Macrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09984575852247982901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-88547054722692213682015-11-27T12:56:46.190+00:002015-11-27T12:56:46.190+00:00Sorry to double post but the 'end of austerity...Sorry to double post but the 'end of austerity' meme is actually the 'end of the austerity meme' meme. The idea being that Osborne has illustrated in a fairly eyecatching way that his spending cuts are discretionary and not dictated by an overriding need to 'deal with the deficit'.Tim Wilkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15237522140184882034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-22806652385259007962015-11-27T12:49:45.838+00:002015-11-27T12:49:45.838+00:00The remarks about McDonnell's performance are ...The remarks about McDonnell's performance are (understandably perhaps) a little gnomic but I'm guessing the idea is that McDonnell's Mao stunt was a kind of self-indulgent outburst which hands the other side a huge victory. <br /><br />In fact I think it worked largely as intended. Mao is a big symbolic deal to the political and media classes, and the likes of John McTernan of course immediately piled on the righteous indignation about quoting a mass murderer (seemingly forgetting his own recent - & entirely non-ironic - misattribution: labourhame.com/labour-has-to-face-up-to-its-failings/ - see also Gove's extended avowal that he wants to emulate the cultural revolution). <br /><br />But no-one in the real world knows or gives a monkey's about Mao or the associaterd esoteric symbolism. But they may well be interested to hear about this government's flogging off British assets to China. And of course getting the media to mention that was the point of the stunt, and it has had some success. Which, given that opposition responses to the Autumn statement normally have the newsworthiness of a village fete, and that the media is generally pretty obstructive to the Labour leadership's attempts to get their messages across, isn't bad going.<br /><br />This is, I assume and hope, the first salvo in a sustained attack on the government over this broad issue. I've personally heard Caroline Flint, of all people, pointing out that the government really should be vulnerable to attack on national security grounds for putting strategic nuclear assets in the hands of the chinese (who I believe have been shown to have hidden spyware even in mass-produced computer dongles). The issue will have further relevance and resonance should Johnson's record as London mayor come under renewed scrutiny in the next few years, given his enthusiasm for selling property to China, and the unresolved corruption allegations involved.<br /><br />So I think the stunt has worked as planned - and it only looks like a crass error to people - mostly inside the Westminster bubble - who are obsessed with political positioning, signals shibboleths & taboos.Tim Wilkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15237522140184882034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-50175329649349387882015-11-27T12:46:09.552+00:002015-11-27T12:46:09.552+00:00Which is completely beside the point. I wrote: I t...Which is completely beside the point. I wrote: I think the chief executive of the Electoral Reform Society was nearer the mark when she said it was “bad news for democracy”. I did not write the chief executive of the Electoral Reform Society said it was “bad news for democracy” and therefore it must be bad. The fact that you treat this in a narrow party political way says a lot about what is wrong at the moment.Mainly Macrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09984575852247982901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-73269203486864598762015-11-27T11:56:57.938+00:002015-11-27T11:56:57.938+00:00The Chief Exec of the Electoral Reform Society wou...The Chief Exec of the Electoral Reform Society would have more creidibility if she hadn't tried to get adopted as a Labour candidate in the election. As it is, the story is: "Labour Party member is upset about cuts to public funding of Labour Party", whatever the rights and wrongs of her case.<br /><br />blenheimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-88113552015411519302015-11-27T11:47:40.813+00:002015-11-27T11:47:40.813+00:00It is obviously right that forecasting, especially...It is obviously right that forecasting, especially government finances, is very difficult. So we should not be surprised that OBR have a terrible record. This clearly means running the economy in line with their forecasts is a bad idea. To be fair to Osborne, when it comes to it he largely so ignores the promises he made based on earlier forecasts. But this should be a terrible warning to those who think technocratic bodies can run fiscal policy.Gobanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06624944704653618487noreply@blogger.com