tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post934864999782333579..comments2024-03-28T04:29:22.717+00:00Comments on mainly macro: Real wages, monetary policy and innovationMainly Macrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09984575852247982901noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-41282833525125844762015-03-25T01:57:39.431+00:002015-03-25T01:57:39.431+00:00some workfare "employees" are paid simil...some workfare "employees" are paid similar to other low-paid jobs, but we have to bare in mind that those in low-paid jobs are sometimes relying on benefits too. (Unlike like my Dad, who is on a zero-hour contract, and so needs the hours; and could be paid 50 pounds more than me per week. I am on ESA) <br /> I know that some people like to view us as 'customers' when actually we make up the Labour force. The cunning thing about workfare is that they (im not in one) also have to be looking for paid work as well. Paid work being part of the economy. I think to look at benefits as a wage is to overlook the exploitation inherent in capitalist relations: so damn right you should be taxed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-11327877182296114422014-07-19T22:20:45.152+00:002014-07-19T22:20:45.152+00:00Suggest you to read Das Capital volume I by Karl M...Suggest you to read Das Capital volume I by Karl Marx chapter on machinery. You should get a nice flow of idea as well as answers to your many questions quite well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-32337791460626682392014-06-24T23:42:25.985+00:002014-06-24T23:42:25.985+00:00Interesting post. You may be interested in the sit...Interesting post. You may be interested in the situation in Switzerland, which doesn't seem to fit so neatly into your model. Swiss wages are high, relatively, while the cost of capital is low. Yet when there are road works, you hardly see traffic lights; instead there is a team of men wearing dayglow gear controlling the traffic, 24 hours a day. They aren't completely without machines though; they do use walkie talkies...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-36523603380441864452014-06-24T13:49:04.353+00:002014-06-24T13:49:04.353+00:00The article deals with the shift in capital intens...The article deals with the shift in capital intensity of the economy.<br />The first argument is related to the relative cost of capital and labor that can be split in four terms: the real price of investment goods, the real interest rate, the financing premium and the real wage. During the crisis, price of investment and the interest rates has decreased (but not enough due to ZLB): these developments should have sustained capital intensity. But at the same time, the financing premium went up (a lot) and the real wage dropped (more than in previous recessions). As a result, medium run capital intensity have been reduced, causing a astonish labor productivity.<br />Now, assume a recovery. According to the analysis, capital intensity will depend on the financing premium. One may expect a normalization.<br />The second argument is a kind of “low investment trap”: investment is low because the real wage is low; and the real wage is low because capital intensity is low (the story is surely more complex).<br />Does this post suggests that the financial premium and the ZLB has pushed the economy in a trap ? This would be exactly a so-called “lost decade”, i.e. a phenomena where an initial shock is amplified / prolonged by an inaccurate policy or the absence of an accurate policy.Benjamin Cartonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13056801590693708476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-86576472490137896742014-06-23T12:58:32.957+00:002014-06-23T12:58:32.957+00:00Not that it takes anything away from the article, ...Not that it takes anything away from the article, but there's far more water metering now, and less fixed cost water rates. I'm guessing a bloke with a bucket uses less water. And in SE England, a garage probably faces the risk of a machine car wash ban every few years, during which an expensive capital item would be sitting idle. <br /><br />So the increase in hand car washing might instead be telling us (a) what happens when businesses are forced to pay for the true cost of the resources they use, or (b) the effect of regulation, or (c) what happens when there is a lack of infrastructure (not building enough reservoirs. Lukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14014996272817759191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-38670202665549389382014-06-23T08:15:22.423+00:002014-06-23T08:15:22.423+00:00The dictionary definition of a slave is along the ...The dictionary definition of a slave is along the lines of someone who gets no wage, apart from enough food to eat plus shelter, plus who is FORCED to work. Workfare employees DO GET A WAGE. Moreover, workfare employees are NOT FORCED TO WORK, an option they’ll go for particularly where they have some other source of income or support (e.g. a spouse whose partner goes out to work).<br /><br />Next, the wage that workfare employees get (i.e. the benefits they’d get if they DIDN’T WORK) is little different to what many on minimum wage get. So riddle me this: what’s the big difference between minimum wage work and Workfare?<br /><br />And finally, while I’m well aware that about half the population thinks that the money government spends grows on trees, the reality is that money for government spending comes from tax. Thus if one person is allowed to live on benefits, another person is being “forced” to work. So riddle me another question: which of those two is the slave?<br />Ralph Musgravehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09443857766263185665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-34106481848530502052014-06-23T07:44:07.858+00:002014-06-23T07:44:07.858+00:00Related to your point, Calvo, Coricelli and Ottone...Related to your point, Calvo, Coricelli and Ottonello (Jobless recoveries) also raise the issue of whether credit constraints favor capital intensive technologies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-84674479151953326792014-06-23T02:29:53.127+00:002014-06-23T02:29:53.127+00:00The idea seems to be to stop a wage-price spiral b...The idea seems to be to stop a wage-price spiral by stopping wage increases - but doesn't this leave out ant productivity gains that might still be occuring?<br /><br />For example, if the inflation target is 2% and there is normally a 1% increase in productivity because of education, training, technological innovation and normal levels of capital investment, then wages can rise by 3% and yet companies need only raise prices by 2% to maintain profitability.<br /><br />One mans wage inflation is another mans increase in income levels... if wages do not rise faster than inflation, the standard of living/incomes never improve unless people work longer hours...btghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13659575122907568683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-80016660310285001132014-06-22T23:32:18.808+00:002014-06-22T23:32:18.808+00:00I read this sort of academic, theoretic argument, ...I read this sort of academic, theoretic argument, and think, well, he could be right, but geez, there are some simple answers that need to be done:<br />tax the rich<br />short term financial trading tax<br />go after off shore sheltera<br /><br />I mean, geez, why bother with this complex high falutin stuff when you got easy stuff to do ?<br /><br />In a way, you could say that the author is acting as agent of the rich, by deflecting energy away from what we need to do; if we go down the author's road, we will spend endless hours debating the paid toadys of the rich, and nothing will happenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-19714741318181830722014-06-22T20:18:10.291+00:002014-06-22T20:18:10.291+00:00No, no, no - not knowing much about car cleaning t...No, no, no - not knowing much about car cleaning technology is not a minor caveat. Simply put, automated car washing is generally not as good quality as manual washing. The rise of manual washing probably correlates with an increase in the trust of the 'group of men' approach and is a substitute for having a valet service or doing it yourself. <br /><br />The washing machines themselves appear to require a large amount of servicing (people-based task) and also seem to break down a lot, which must affect the rate of return for the owners.<br /><br />I'm sure the general thrust of your economic argument stands, but the car washing observation doesn't quite work for meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-46546616956955308042014-06-22T17:52:12.520+00:002014-06-22T17:52:12.520+00:00There is a post at interfluidity from 2012 along s...There is a post at interfluidity from 2012 along similar lines: Www.interfluidity.com/v2/2942.html might be interesting.tobinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-66629030711693585442014-06-22T13:58:28.350+00:002014-06-22T13:58:28.350+00:00I have noticed in the last two years or so a garag...I have noticed in the last two years or so a garage close to me (west midlands) start employing manual car-washers, and anecdotally I'd say its more popular than the nearby machine washers. They use pressure sprayers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-44307985714995305932014-06-22T13:48:20.940+00:002014-06-22T13:48:20.940+00:00Yellen has told the media she want to see real wag...Yellen has told the media she want to see real wages rise. My guess (and hope) is that she will hold off raising rates until they overshoot on inflation. I won't be that surprised if it doesn't happen given the political push to raise rates now, now, now. <br /><br />"Savers" and creditors don't want inflation to eat into their savings and returns and they command immense political power.<br /><br />What happened the last time wages shared in productivity in the U.S. in the late 90s - something Obama mentioned on the campaign trail - was that Greenspan allowed unemployment to drift down to 4 percent even as others, like Yellen, wanted to raise rates. Globalization and the internet raised productivity and kept inflation down. But what happened instead was a Tech stock bubble which burst and then morphed into a housing bubble. There was an unsustainable inflation in assets as wealth was redistributed upwards and labor no longer shared in productivity gains.<br />Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08272747870634233567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-62264690163249438032014-06-22T12:38:55.232+00:002014-06-22T12:38:55.232+00:00RM;
"we could exploit that phenomenon by imp...RM;<br /><br />"we could exploit that phenomenon by implementing a large scale workfare scheme: i.e. hire out the unemployed at say 1p/hr to employers, with employees getting their usual pay in the form of benefits."<br /><br />Roll up! Roll up! Roll up!<br /><br />Watch as the man striving to be treated as a 'Very Serious person' stretches logic past its useful point and advocates a state slavery system. See the invention of modern indentured servitude before your very eyes!<br /><br />AllanWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334069645468522432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-87555450572727597812014-06-22T12:36:58.541+00:002014-06-22T12:36:58.541+00:00Do wages fall below the minimum wage? Or does that...Do wages fall below the minimum wage? Or does that 'substitution' occur above the minimum wage?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2546602206734889307.post-14919213158967948022014-06-22T11:46:12.869+00:002014-06-22T11:46:12.869+00:00“If labour becomes expensive relative to capital, ...“If labour becomes expensive relative to capital, it is worth the garage investing in a car washing machine…” There is problem with that argument, namely that the cost of capital equipment is largely made up of the cost of labour. Ergo it’s not possible to alter the price of labour relative to price of capital equipment. (To be more accurate, the cost any anything is ultimately composed of 3 items: labour, interest and profit I seem to remember. But even interest and profit can be regarded as the “wage” or cost of the labour of money lenders and entrepreneurs.)<br /><br />Instead, I suggest it’s an increase in the RANGE of wages paid, e.g. the very low wages paid to immigrants mentioned by Simon. Certainly my experience is that hand car was establishments are run and staffed by immigrants – Middle Eastern and Indian sub-continent in my experience.<br /><br />Assuming the above increased RANGE reduces unemployment (which I think it does) we could exploit that phenomenon by implementing a large scale workfare scheme: i.e. hire out the unemployed at say 1p/hr to employers, with employees getting their usual pay in the form of benefits.<br /><br />Ralph Musgravehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09443857766263185665noreply@blogger.com