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Showing posts with label Mark Sadowski. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mark Sadowski. Show all posts

Thursday, 16 July 2015

Evidence for monetary offset

As Tony Yates among others has observed, antagonism towards using fiscal policy for macroeconomic stabilisation seems to be an essential part of market monetarism. However their argument is not that fiscal policy will have no impact on demand and therefore output, but rather that monetary policy can always offset this impact. This can be called the ‘monetary offset’ argument.

As I have noted before, the idea of monetary offset is actually a key part of Keynesian objections to austerity in a liquidity trap [1]. In a liquidity trap monetary policy’s ability to offset fiscal austerity is severely compromised, but at other times it can be done. It therefore makes much more sense to postpone austerity until a time when monetary offset is clearly possible. So the idea that monetary offset can happen is common ground. What is in dispute is the extent to which a liquidity trap (or almost equivalently the fact that nominal interest rates cannot become too negative) prevents complete monetary offset.

If empirical evidence could be found that complete monetary offset has operated during a liquidity trap that would be powerful support for the market monetarist case. Scott Sumner recently presented (HT Nick Rowe) some analysis by Mark Sadowski which he said did just that. Taking the cyclically adjusted primary balance as a measure of fiscal policy, it showed that there was no correlation between this and growth in nominal GDP in the single period from 2009 to 2014 for those countries with an independent monetary policy.

There are tons of problems with simple correlations of this kind, some of which I discuss here, which is why quite elaborate econometric techniques are nowadays used to assess the impact of fiscal policy. But there is a rather simpler problem with this correlation. As far as I know, no one had expressed a concern about fiscal austerity because of the impact this will have on nominal GDP. The issue is always the impact on real activity, for reasons that are obvious enough.

So what happens if we relate fiscal policy to real GDP growth, using Sadowski’s data set? Here is the answer.


There are two obvious outliers here: at the top Singapore, and to the right Iceland. Exclude those and we get this.


There is a clear negative correlation between the extent of fiscal tightening and the amount of real GDP growth. Strange that Sumner gave no hint of this :)

Do I think this is definitive evidence? No, for two reasons. First, the obvious problems with simple correlations of this kind noted earlier. Second, this sample includes quite a few countries where interest rates over this period have averaged over 2% (Australia, Norway, New Zealand, and Korea) and so are unlikely to be subject to a liquidity trap. Others may only have been in a liquidity trap for a part of this period. What we can say is that these correlations are perfectly consistent with the view that austerity reduces growth in countries with an independent monetary policy. [2]

If you were to conclude that we just do not have enough data to know to what extent monetary offset can operate in a liquidity trap, I think you would be right. If you then went on to say that therefore the data cannot discriminate between the two sides in terms of policy, you would be wrong. What market monetarists want you to believe is that there is no need to worry about fiscal austerity in a liquidity trap, because an independent monetary policy can and will always offset its impact. This is wrong, precisely because the empirical evidence is so limited. We know, both from theory and the great majority of econometric studies, that fiscal contraction has a fairly predictable impact in reducing GDP. We have virtually no idea how much unconventional monetary policy is required to offset this impact. Given lags, that means trying to achieve monetary offset in a liquidity trap is always going to be hit and miss. The moment you think about uncertainty, the market monetarist argument for not worrying about austerity in a liquidity trap falls apart. 


[1] It is not the only reason why fiscal austerity in a severe recession might be a bad idea. There is a lot of empirical evidence that the impact of austerity is greater in recessions than when the economy is stronger, and there are other theoretical reasons besides monetary offset why that may be the case. This is of some importance for individual economies in a monetary union.

[2] If the coefficient on fiscal policy was lower for this sample than for Eurozone countries (I’ve not tried), would that at least be evidence for some monetary policy offset? The trouble here is that some of the countries driving the EZ results were also suffering from an overvalued real exchange rate as a result of earlier excess demand, and so this might bias upwards the coefficient on fiscal policy in those regressions.



Thursday, 12 June 2014

Good and Bad Blog Debates

One of the things I really like about blogs is that they can generate considered and informed debates about ideas. But not all blog debates are like that. Debates can get too personal - they begin to become about the people involved in the debate, rather than the ideas. They become a debating contest. Sometimes this can be a contest between two people, or it can be a contest between two groups. This may be a fun sport for those committed fans of either side, but I do not think it is a very good means of informing those who are not committed but who want to know more about the issues involved.

Take the debate involving Mark Sadowski (MS) that started with this post. MS disagreed with a number of things I said, and we had a short back and forth in the comment thread to that post. MS also combined his points as a separate post. All well and good. This debate led me to write two subsequent posts. One was about how the US recovery had continued despite fiscal contraction. The other, actually written following a subsequent post by Giles Wilkes, was an attempt to try and explain in very general terms where the two sides agreed and disagreed on fiscal policy. I wrote neither as sequels in a debate between MS and myself, because they were not intended to be that. I wanted to talk about facts in the first case and ideas in the second, rather than have a debating contest.

I think MS saw it differently. Here he responds to my post on the US recovery, imagining it to be a ‘response’ to his earlier post. Here he responds to my second post. Both are written in a quite personal style, as the titles suggest. Not a style I like, but so what?

Well, if you are going to do this kind of thing, you need to be especially careful that you get your facts right, because it has become personal. In the second half of the second post, he writes:

“At what point will fiscalists stop wringing their hands over the “liquidity trap” and start to worry about what is the consensus assignment of fiscal policy, which is debt stabilization? What I sense is they aren’t really interested in the consensus assignment of fiscal policy.
 And who can blame them? Debt stabilization is dull. It is *really* dull. Why worry about something so dull when you can worry about something which is so much more exciting, which is obviously aggregate demand stabilization.
 And this I think is the crux of the real asymmetry. Monetarists are genuinely interested in the consensus assignment of monetary policy, which is aggregate demand stabilization. Fiscalists show no interest at all in the consensus assignment of fiscal policy, which is debt stabilization.”

Now here he talks about ‘fiscalists’ rather than mentioning me by name, but anyone reading this post would assume that I was among the people he is talking about. Another fiscalist named in this debate is Jonathan Portes. Now it just so happens that Jonathan and I have just written a substantial paper, which is all about debt stabilisation! Whoops.

An unlucky error? No, it’s much worse. A quick look on my homepage will show you that much of my academic research since 2000 has been about debt stabilisation. Unlike MS, I do not think the subject is really dull. Issues like what the long run target for debt should be, how quickly we should get there, what happens to monetary policy when debt is not controlled by the fiscal authority, seem to me rather interesting.

Hopefully that corrects the impression created that these particular 'fiscalists' are not interested in debt stabilisation. But has this post been very informative for someone interested in the issues, rather than the personalities? I learnt very soon after I started this blog, thanks to another market monetarist, that it is generally better to focus on the ideas rather than the individuals putting these ideas forward. This can be difficult, and I do not always get it right, but that at least was what I was trying to do in my last post.

Tuesday, 10 June 2014

Monetarist vs Fiscalist

Giles Wilkes (ex special advisor to Vince Cable, Business Secretary in the current UK government and LibDem) has a post that compares those he calls ‘fiscalists’ like myself and Jonathan Portes to market monetarists (MM). His post follows some comments and a post by Mark Sadowski responding to an earlier post of mine where Mark took exception to my saying “the major factor behind the second Eurozone recession is not [controversial] : contractionary fiscal policy”. You find much the same debate in this post by Scott Sumner, attacking (mainly) Paul Krugman.

I think Giles Wilkes gets a lot of things right, but I thought it might be useful to set out as clearly as I can how I see the nature of the disagreement. The first, and probably the most important, thing to say is that the disagreement is not about whether fiscal contraction is contractionary, if the monetary authority does nothing. (See, for example, Lars Christensen here.)That is actually what I meant with my statement about the Eurozone recession, which linked to a study that calculated the impact of austerity holding monetary policy ‘constant’. This is so important because, in their enthusiasm to denounce countercyclical fiscal policy, MM often give the impression of thinking otherwise.

The disagreement is over what monetary policy is capable of doing. The second thing to say is that this is all about the particular circumstances of the Zero Lower Bound (ZLB). I do not like the label fiscalist for this reason - it implies a belief that fiscal policy is always better than monetary policy as a means of stabilising the economy. (Giles Wilkes is not the first to use this term - see for example Cardiff Garcia, who includes more protagonists.) Now there may be some economists who think this, but I certainly do not, and nor I believe does Paul Krugman or Jonathan Portes. I described in this article what I called the consensus assignment: that monetary policy should look after stabilising aggregate demand and fiscal policy should be all about debt stabilisation, and there I described recent research (e.g.) which I think strongly supports this assignment. However there has always been a key caveat to that assignment - it does not apply at the ZLB.

Before talking about that, let me illustrate why language can confuse matters. Suppose we had fiscal austerity well away from the ZLB. Suppose further that for some reason the monetary authority did not take measures to offset the impact this had on aggregate demand, and there was a recession as a result. I suspect a MM would tend to say that this recession was caused by monetary policy, even though monetary policy had not ‘done anything’. (In this they follow in the tradition of that great monetarist, Milton Friedman, who liked to say that monetary policy caused the Great Depression.) The reason they would say that is not because fiscal policy has no effect, but because it is the duty of monetary policy to offset shocks like fiscal austerity. That is why fiscal policy multipliers should always be zero, because monetary policy should make them so. So Mark Sadowski got upset with my statement because in his view ECB policy failed to counteract the impact of Eurozone austerity, and could have done so, which meant the  recession in 2012/3 was down to monetary policy, not fiscal policy.

So we come to the heart of the disagreement - the ability of monetary policy to offset fiscal actions at the ZLB. This is all about the effectiveness of unconventional monetary policy (UMP), which is both Quantitative Easing and what I call forward commitment (promising positive output gaps in the future: see David Beckworth here). I do not want to go over these arguments again, partly because I have already written about them elsewhere (e.g. here, here and here). Instead I just want to make an observation about asymmetry.

Economists like Paul Krugman, Jonathan Portes and myself (and there are many others) do not argue against using UMP. Indeed PK pioneered the idea of forward commitment for Japan, and I have been as critical as anyone about ECB policy. We do not argue that fiscal policy will be so effective as to make unconventional monetary policy unnecessary, and so write countless posts criticising those promoting UCM. To take a specific example, I happen to think that the recent ECB moves will have less impact on the Eurozone than continuing fiscal austerity, but I do not say the ECB is wasting its time as a result. They should do more.   

I’m interested in this asymmetry, and where it comes from. Why do MM hate fiscal expansion at the ZLB so much? It could be ideological (see Noah Smith here), but I suspect something else matters. I think it has something to do with monetarism, by which I mean a belief that money is at the heart of issues to do with stabilisation and inflation. MM is not about controlling the money supply as monetarism originally was, but I think many other aspects of monetarism survive. My own view is more Wicksellian (or perhaps Woodfordian), whence the failure to be able to lower interest rates below zero naturally appears central. To those not trained as macroeconomists (and perhaps some that are) these sentences will appear mysterious, so if this idea survives comments I may come back to it later.