On the
relationship between finance and fiscal policy
When Momentum put
out this tweet following the latest spat between Corbyn and
Blair
“Blair favoured deregulation of the banking industry - leading to one of the worst crashes in modern history. While spending on public services was higher, his legacy will ultimately be the austerity that followed his failure to stand up to big finance.”
I responded with this
“This is parroting the Tory line that austerity was Labour's fault. As wrong coming from the left as it was from the right. Austerity wan't inevitable after the Global Financial Crisis. It was Osborne choosing to shrink the state, because Labour hadn't. Know your true enemy.”
Big
mistake. I had criticised momentum and, in some eyes, supported Blair and twitter did its stuff. Among those supporting the momentum
tweet was Clive
Lewis
and (maybe) Grace Blakeley, and among those agreeing with me where
Tom
Kibasi
and Chris
Dillow.
A
lot of these tweets were totally irrelevant to the original tweet and my
response. The original tweet is pretty clear. Blair’s failure to
regulate the banking industry led to austerity. So the gradual
appeasement of austerity we saw from Labour from 2010 to 2015, which
I have strongly criticised elsewhere,
is not relevant. Nor are Darling’s plans for cutting the deficit
before the 2010 election. As I have said before, it is unfortunate
that Darling won his battle against Brown and Balls and allowed
reducing the deficit to be part of Labour’s short term objectives.
But that has nothing to do with the momentum tweet, which involved
the financial sector. [1]
Did
Labour’s failure to regulate finance lead to austerity? In a very
basic sense the answer is clearly no. Osborne didn’t need to embark
on cutting public spending in a recession for the simple reason that
no Chancellor since Keynes has done so. It was his choice. Perhaps if
Labour had been tougher on banks the UK might have been less
vulnerable to the Global Financial Crisis. UK banks collapsed largely
because of overseas assets they had on their books (little to do with
domestic debt), so the regulation would have had to stop them buying
those assets, or forced them to substantially reduced their leverage.
But I find it hard to believe that we would have avoided a recession
of some kind.
A
recession - even a mild one - was all Osborne needed. He was looking
for ways to reduce public spending, and he saw a rising deficit as
his opportunity. He committed to his policy in 2008, which was
well before the extent of the recession was known. So it seems almost
certain that the deficit would have risen sufficiently to allow
Osborne to undertake austerity.
But
why did he undertake austerity. I think it is because he wanted to
shrink the state, something he had failed to convince voters to do on
its merits [2]. What I call deficit deceit is using the supposed need to
reduce the deficit to cut spending. But Grace Blakeley and Clive Lewis
suggest something more complex. Here is Grace:
“I suppose it depends on how you view the emergence of neoliberalism - I see it as an ideology that both emerges from and reinforces a change in the balance of class forces under which finance capital becomes hegemonic. ‘Shrinking the state’ is generally political cover for empowering or enriching a particular group and disempowering another - eg PFI used to allow investors to profit from state spending, and austerity used to disempower small l labour at a time when it otherwise might have organised to challenge the status quo.”
Suppose
Labour had regulated finance to a much greater degree, and that would
include not giving it a central role in Treasury decision making,
much as Brown had in 1997 with the Bank and financial sector
regulation. If that had reduced the size of the UK recession that would
be a good thing. But would it have prevented austerity. I cannot see
how. Would it have changed Osborne’s mind about wanting austerity?
I cannot see how.
Did
finance assist in some ways with the austerity bandwagon. Of course
it did, from City folk who said the market for UK bonds was about to
collapse to pressure brought through the Treasury. But much of that
would have happened even if there had been greater financial
regulation. Again there was nothing a Labour government could do to
prevent all that, short of nationalising the entire sector. So
calling austerity Labour’s legacy makes no sense on these grounds.
Another
way to link finance with austerity, pointed out to me by Clive Lewis,
was in this paper
by Obstfeld. The idea is fairly simple. Too big to fail is all about
the state bailing out the banking system. The state has to have the
‘fiscal capacity’ to do that. Ergo we need to moderate government
debt levels to preserve that capacity. To look at this argument we
need to examine the concept of fiscal capacity and fiscal limit.
Can
a government run up a stock of debt relative to GDP that is
unbounded? MMTers are quite right to say that, in a country that
prints its own currency, a government can never be forced to default.
But debt to GDP might get so high that the political burden of paying
taxes or curtailing spending to pay the interest on that debt becomes
more than the political cost of defaulting. Defaulting can take two
forms: a literal default (failure to pay interest) or excess
inflation devaluing the value of nominal bonds.
That
limit is clearly way above the level of current UK debt. When some
say we do not know where that limit is that may be a prelude to
saying ‘and it might be near the current level’ which is just
designed to scare governments. Governments know their own fiscal
limits and the strength of their inflation targets. But Obstfeld’s
point is that a financial crisis might push a government beyond its
fiscal limit.
I
do not think this argument held much weight with Osborne. As I noted
above, he chose his policy in 2008, and I think it would have taken
him a little longer to work this one out. (Obstfeld’s paper is
2013.) It might have influenced King and some Treasury officials in
2010. But you can see how weak the argument is in a recession by
looking at what the Labour government did. In 2008 it bailed out the
banks and in 2009 it undertook fiscal stimulus. The reason is
straightforward: a recession is as bad for the financial sector as
the real economy. The financial sector is hurt by loans going bad in
the real economy, something that is made more likely in a recession.
The priority in a recession should always be to get out of recession.
Indeed I suspect Obstfeld would agree, as his paper is not an
argument for austerity.
Even
though I do not think there is much credence to the argument that
Labour’s failure to regulate the financial sector caused UK
austerity, that does not mean that the influence of the financial
sector was not crucial elsewhere. Fear about the health of the
financial sector in core Eurozone countries lead directly
to the imposition of first austerity, and then to a second recession.
Greece was hit hardest. In 2010 Eurozone leaders were happy to let
Greek leaders pile on extra debt rather than default on debt their
banks partly owned. That finance ministers in the Eurogroup were then
prepared to tell a subsequent Greek government that they had to pay
every penny back or Greece would be out of the Eurozone. (This episode tells you a
lot about the Eurozone and those finance ministers and nothing about
the EU.)
Banks, and politicians failure to be honest about the need to bail them out,
were central to austerity in the Eurozone. Mark Blyth’s phrase
“what starts with the banks ends with the banks” remains very apt
there. In addition the desire to cut taxes on the rich, many of whom
work in finance, is clearly a key motivation behind austerity in the
US. But if austerity in the UK is anyone’s legacy, it is George
Osborne and not Brown/Blair. He, and he alone, chose to cut spending
in the middle of a recession, something no Chancellor has done since
Keynes wrote the General Theory in 1936.
[1]
For what it is worth, a different economic policy might have changed
the 2010 election outcome: Labour might have got more or less seats.
But it is absurd to call something a government’s legacy just
because the other side were able to do it because they won an election.
Under this logic Brexit is Corbyn’s legacy etc etc.
[2]
Chris Dillow and others have suggested that his main motive was just
to have something to attack Labour with. Some have suggested he
just got the macroeconomics wrong (or more accurately it was at least 10
years out of date). It is difficult to bring evidence to bear on this
debate, but all three explanations suggest Labour’s financial
regulations policy had little to do with it.
The first thing to say is that Neo-Liberal New Labour are not the same thing as Labour. The Labour Party is a socialist party and currently under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn returning to its rightful roots.
ReplyDeleteThis is Gordon Brown's 2006 Mansion house speech which confirms without a shadow of doubt that New Labour were Neo-Liberal, hook line and sinker, which was why the crash happened and they along with their Tory friends wrought disaster on all of us.
My Lord Mayor, Mr Governor, My Lords, Aldermen, Mr Recorder, Sheriffs, ladies and gentlemen.
Let me start by saying what a privilege it is to address this famous and historic dinner, where business, bankers and ministers come together to celebrate London's strengths and achievements.
"People talk of China as the future manufacturing workshop of the world, they call India the future office of the world - I believe that London, like New York, is already the capital marketplace of the world."
"So it is right to give strengthened focus to our growing trade with these areas, and I can inform you that next month Margaret Beckett and Alistair Darling will launch a new remit for UK Trade and Investment and that priority will be given to a focus on China and India, the Gulf states, and Eastern Europe.
I am grateful to many of you here tonight, including the Lord Mayor, who has agreed to serve on the new City advisory group.
Ed Balls, our new City Minister, will work with you to develop publish and then promote a long term strategy for the development of London's financial services and promoting our unique advantages and assets. We will set a clear ambition to make Britain the location of choice for headquarters and services, including R&D, for even more of the world's leading companies.
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And just as two years ago we promoted the action plan for liberalising financial services across Europe, I can tell you that the Treasury is now working with Charles McCreevy and with you to ensure that the forthcoming European financial services white paper signals a new wave of liberalisation."
The whole speech can be found here, noting a year later the Banking system crashed: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2006/jun/22/politics.economicpolicy
New Labour were and still are no different to the Tories as are also the Libdems if people take the time to read the Orange Book, which was why they were happy to go along with the Tories in Coalition.
The current Labour Party believe in public intervention and an end to austerity. Which is why the whole establishment are opposed to them, it isn't rocket science really!
"But why did he undertake austerity. I think it is because he wanted to shrink the state".
ReplyDeleteThis gives Osborne far too much credit for having a political philosophy. Cameron and Osborne had no political philosophy whatsoever. No framework to drape policy upon. Their decisions were just ruthlessly aimed at winning power.
So Osborne undertook austerity because it was an effective political strategy to win them power. It gave him ammunition to fire at Labour. The "Deficit Denier" barb was genius and did more than anything else to make Labour unelectable. Because, with an only vaguely connected electorate, a two word summary which captures the essence of your message beats a detailed critique of Keynesian fiscal reflation at the ZLB into a cocked hat.
That Osborne believed in nothing but winning power is evidenced by the fact that you have pointed out: that he quietly shelved Austerity in the run up to the 2015 election to boost the economy, whilst loudly insisting that Austerity was the reason for the upturn.
The Tories are working to an agenda, from the 1977 Nicholas Ridley papers to the Secret 1982 cabinet papers,"the longer term options. Which was all about transferring public services into the private sector and asset stripping the state. Thatchers 1982 cabinet papers, its all there for anyone to see: incredibly you will need to contact the National Archives to obtain the viewer link but start from here: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13318082 in the meantime this is Nicholas Ridley's 1977 paper: https://skwawkbox.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/fabea1f4bfa64cb398dfa20d8b8b6c98.pdf
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